[Jason]

A Christian comedian once said something like this: We go to McDonalds. We order the most fatty, greasiest, unhealthy food imaginable and ask God to "Bless this food to the nourishment of my body" as the common prayer goes. The comedian said that he didn't even know if the God who split the Red Sea and rose Lazarus from the dead can create that amazing of a miracle.

Sadly, a couple of our youth got the wrong idea and decided to stop asking God to bless their food while at fast food restaurants. I told them, are you serious? You need the most help then! Don't stop praying!


But instead.. stop eating fast food.

Which I could call myself a hypocrite at because I eat unhealthy and enjoy it. I don't gain a pound due to high metabolism so you better believe I eat.

But we should be honoring God with what ever we put into our bodies. Granted that Christ said that it isn't what goes into our bodies that is sinful but what comes out. (Matthew 15:10-11) But we do have to consider that our bodies are living Temples of God.

So how do you treat your Temple?

I feel smoking isn't the best thing for a Christian to get caught up in. But how is me eating at Mickey D's any better? Tsk Tsk on me.

But anyway.

As to the original post, I obviously am having a similar issue. There is good healthy foods out there I know.. But what are they? Dunno..

[Boyde]

Comparing McDonalds to smoking is a ridiculous comparison. It's like a motorcycle isn't going to damage a building if it crashes into one as much as if it were a truck. Smoking is just another legal drug like alcohol. McDonalds, however, is the essence of heaven in grease form. XD Honestly, let's just keep our foods in moderation and not worry too much over it.

[Jason]

Well, why couldn't it be compared?

I mean.. If you was going to damage Solomon's Temple way back when, would you do it with a pick axe or a pocket knife?

A pocket knife would do less damage so would it be approprate to damage Solomon's Temple with it? Just as long as you don't do it much?

I know I am probably taking it a bit to far, but I am mostly just raising a point. We are God's Temple. Whatever we do with our bodies, we are doing with God's Temple. That is how 1 Corin. 3:16 reads I think. 3:16 starts a new thought so I will quote it from 16 through 17. Verse 17 ends that particular thought. Please read for yourself to affirm that though.

¹⁶Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? ¹⁷If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple.

So, according to Apostle Paul's writings, could I be correct in saying we need to live healthy lives? (I HATE saying that as this means I need to stop eating like I do..)

I am also wondering if this is on topic and if we need to split the topic so that all4christ1104 gets the answer he was intending to get.

[Boyde]

Jason, As long as you keep things in moderation, if you eat 200 hamburgers, you're going to be just fine. However, if you smoke 200 cigarettes, you're already going to sustain lung damage. Our bodies naturally work off the cholesterol, calories, fat, etc. in a hamburger, and, as long as we eat them in moderation, we will be just fine even eating them throughout our whole lives. If you smoke throughout your life, numerous negative outcomes will come. You will first become addicted, leading you to have a physical need for more cigarettes. You will also retain lung damage regardless of your health. 99.5% of lung cancer victims are smokers. In short, smoking is not nearly the same risk as eating McDonalds hamburgers.

PS-Let's keep the debate going, yeah?

[Jason]

I split this off Healthy Living as it was off-topic. Of course, I'd be the one to start it. :P

I read back over the posts and I think what is happening is there is a minor bit of me not getting out exactly what I need to type.

I feel there is a time for everything as King Solomon wrote. As such, eating a birthday cake or eating a bowl of ice cream for dessert once a month or maybe even once a week is not sinful.

What I am saying is the practice of eating unhealthy is sinful. Such as eating at a fast food place everyday for lunch. Esp. when you could very well take your own lunch for a lower cost.

Is this basically what you are saying Boyde?

[Boyde]

Basically. And coupled with that point is the fact that you can work off the effects of McDonalds. However, you can't work off the effects of long term smoking.

[seena]

Nebraska law defines child abuse as placing a minor child in a situation that endangers his or her life or physical or mental health"If the above paraphrase of the Nebraska law is accurate, then exposing kids to second-hand smoke is clearly a violation. Unless the legislature specifically exempts second-hand smoke, law enforcement is required to enforce the law as written.

[Boyde]

That would mean then that bringing your child to an amusement park is against the law. I'm not for smoking (I'm against it), but if you go out in public, you're probably going to see a smoker, that would mean that people can't take their children outside. I really don't think you can consider second hand smoking as child abuse... Just my 2 cents.

[Kidd]

The problem of fast food is threefold.

1) it is convenient/easy
2) it is cheap
3) it tastes great

I can pretty much buy a cheeseburger meal for the same price I could make myself a decent lunch at home, or for not much more. Plus it usually comes with cola, which has caffeine, which is a drug and can be addictive (I've had caffeine headaches before from withdrawl, yuck).

I'm not entirely sure that McD's isn't addictive either, used to be I could walk by the place and as soon as I caught a wif I would want to go in and eat.. something not quite natural about that.

I believe in 'everything in moderation.' The health food people can't make up their minds on what is good or not good for us so I don't stress it.. I just try not to eat too much food that is unhealthy for me and I don't eat too much of any given thing (like salt or sugar). Couple that with decent exercise and you'll be alright.

I tend to think since fast food is something that doesn't cause permanent damage it's more like your making a mess on the floor of Solomon's Temple and you have to remember to clean it up later (exercise). If your eating all that without concern for the effect your going to become rather thick around the middle, and it could start effecting your health.

--edit Thinking more on this I'm sure Paul would say the same thing he does about dating/marriage.. don't do it if you can avoid it and if you feel the urge to eat that junkfood, be prepared to work it off. just a thought (comparing marriage and junkfood is a weird thought though :S)

This post has been edited by Kidd: 08 April 2010 - 12:07 AM

[Jon-Marc]

I learned the hard way the damage that can be done to the body by not eating properly and eating too much high salt, high fat and high sugar foods. Yes, they taste a lot better than healthy foods, but they do permanent damage to the body.

I now have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, and diabetes, and I'm on permanent medications for all those. It's no one's fault but mine for eating all that fat, salt, and sugar (WAY more than my body could handle or needed)--all of which make food taste good and destroy the body when used in high quantities as I did.

I hope you who are still young will listen to and learn from the voice of experience before the damage is done and can only be helped by medications.

People can die from all the problems I have, although as a child of God I have NO fear of death.

This post has been edited by Jon-Marc: 09 April 2010 - 05:16 PM

[seena]

OBJECTIVE. Eating large amounts of food at a rapid rate, defined as gorging, may contribute to excess energy intake. We aimed to evaluate whether altering portion sizes and eating rate could decrease energy intake during an extra-large fast food meal.METHODS. Subjects were adolescents (n = 18), 13 to 17 years of age, who reported eating fast food /math/ge.gif1 time per week. BMI exceeded the 80th percentile for all subjects. Three feeding conditions were evaluated with a crossover design. Total amounts and types of foods and beverage served during the meal were held constant across conditions, equaling /math/sim.gif125% of that consumed during a baseline assessment visit when subjects were offered unlimited amounts. The meal (chicken nuggets, French fries,

[Jason]

I am very curious of why you are copying articles from pediatrics.aappublications.org? You even still retain the stylizing of the website for what you used to search it. 

If you can, give a link back to the article and summarize what it says in your post. That way it isn't full on plagiarism. ;)